lies vs faith

What the world thinks is a lie, Christians regard as faith. This can only be because the world can only see what is happening now but not what is going to happen in the future. Christians in some numbers have called other Christians who believe in faith liars because they believe in things that are not as though they were. This of course is the definition of faith as given in Hebrews. The hinge word here seems to be persistence and the lack of persistence. When persistence fails then my faith fails. Fears are the opposites of faith. Most know that but apparently do not know when they declare God did not heal someone that it was God's fault and not their own lack of persistence.

are lies true?

The question is, when? If one persists then it is faith. Church teaching lacks zing, the attributes of life and action. It is obvious the conclusions one can draw from that. Meanwhile secularists chime in that believing for health issues is a lie. They do not define faith the way believers are supposed to believe. They do not persist.         Since faith is defined as believing those things that are not as though they were, humanists can argue this is a lie. In John, I think chapter 7, Jesus told His disciples He was not going up to Jerusalem for the feast. But then He went in order to deceive the synagogue because they sought to kill Him. So apparently He did not trust the twelve?
         This is the kind of thing those hostile to believers like to bounce on to hold Jesus up to ridicule. As to believers they usually ignore or deny the entire scenario ever happened like that, then they do not have to think about it or respond. My point is churches send their Sunday Scholars to college ill equipped to explain or stand up their faith or for Jesus. Then they usually graduate losing whatever meager belief they did have.  

wavering faith

The primary purpose of a church should be the same as the primary theme of Jesus Christ's ministry. This would be the spirit specifically the giver of  spirits and of existence, the Holy Spirit. It would not be, in my speculations, until Isaac Newton that anyone would mention unseen forces in the scientific arena.
           However, scientific circles were not comfortable with his efforts despite the mathematics, because they were still of the mind sight was proof. Their fear was Newton in discovering gravity, they thought, was getting too close to psychic phenomena and the occult.

Many in churches, and even the pulpit itself, do not have any idea of spirit whatsoever, relying exclusively on their concrete senses. An example of this would be a pastor telling me that if God did not heal a person, then this that and the other was the reason.

          His speculations were not only bannered under God's laws, but in closing off whether or not someone was healed, had abandoned the first rule of faith, Persistence. He was no longer believing, and in doing so had shouldered off the responsibility for healing onto God, rather than his abandoning his faith.

does a church full of people build faith?

What if you ask God to heal you and He does not do it.  I once was told this story by a pastor several years ago now. He said, if we pray for two men to be healed and He heals one but not the other then the reason was God did not heal the other because He did not want to. He either even had a lesson to teach the other one or else He wanted the other one to do some suffering for his own good, etc.

Notice that this in direct opposition to the definition of faith. First of all since faith is belief in things that are not as though they were, then who was it that quit faith altogether and decided God, God Himself, did not heal? 

I think rather that is we who decided the game was over, and the gig was up that did not believe in any healing. We forgot along the way of unbelief that persistence is the bedrock of faith. If our persistence wavers or we pull it back and turn from the plow, then we do not believe. If there is no persistence then there is no faith. 

I will believe even after death, death of the body will not deter me. Why was I not healed? I only know I am to do what I am told to do, and no explanation outside of that will weaken my faith except make it stronger. This is what I speak. 

Unfortunately people who go to church to gain faith, are often given no incentive to build their faith. Rather they are left to sit and wait until they decide no answer is coming. What else is such a decision but the end of faith? There is nothing for them to do.

If we do not get an answer and our request from God seems to go down into the grave with Lazarus what then? I don't know but I trust God anyway even though He kill me. So what if I do not have enough faith to hurl a mountain in the sea? The disciples could not heal the little boy but when they turned him of to Jesus he was healed. Why they asked could we not do it? This came out only with much prayer and fasting, Jesus said. 

So faith comes in various degrees, some with little and others with great.  It does not mean I am not saved or will not go to heaven. It means I did not have enough faith. I might suggest we ask God... ask Jesus... ask the Holy Spirit to step in and shore us up. We can never say He does not do it until our persistence turns to jelly. I say I will persist anyway and never give up my faith. 

I do not have to know everything. I am a slave dead in Christ.